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the romney from massachusetts or the romney from bain or the romney from nordquist or the kneow cons? >> the interesting thing about the debate format is each candidate is going to be given a lot of time to answer some of these basic questions. that may not be good for romney. you get the sense, particularly on health care, while governor romney of 2003 could give a good ten-minute answer on health care and what he thought about it, what he wanted to do about it, what he had accomplished in massachusetts, how can mitt romney talk for five minutes on health care, even like 90 seconds without saying something that contradicts something he said the week before, the month before, that gets the base upset, that is confusing, that reporters can't quite understand? i don't know how he does it. he's tied himself into knots on this particular question. on the other side, i do know some obama aides who are a little worried that the president, who sometimes can be overly profess soral, may use the time not to his advantage either. they'd like to see more succinct answers. they each have the oppo
the romney from massachusetts or the romney from bain or the romney from nordquist or the kneow cons? >> the interesting thing about the debate format is each candidate is going to be given a lot of time to answer some of these basic questions. that may not be good for romney. you get the sense, particularly on health care, while governor romney of 2003 could give a good ten-minute answer on health care and what he thought about it, what he wanted to do about it, what he had accomplished...
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newmitt romney? >> it's very important. this is his second time to make an impression. the first time was during the republican convention. the second time is in a situation where he's going to be asked very specific, detailed policy questions and in fairness he gets a chance to put president obama on the defensive the but to sflan to the american people specifically what he wants. here's the unfortunate truth about this, chris. both presidential candidates, president obama and governor romney are smart individuals. this is going to be a very good debate, because both are policy wonks and they're not afraid to answer a detailed question. >> nera, this morning chuck todd said to be honest -- they're both smart men, but neither is a great debater. he thinks the vice presidential debate will be a lot more interesting. however, mitt romney has 20 primary debates under his belt and president obama has none this time around. if you look at history, the past four incumbent presidents have had a difficult ti
newmitt romney? >> it's very important. this is his second time to make an impression. the first time was during the republican convention. the second time is in a situation where he's going to be asked very specific, detailed policy questions and in fairness he gets a chance to put president obama on the defensive the but to sflan to the american people specifically what he wants. here's the unfortunate truth about this, chris. both presidential candidates, president obama and governor...
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mitt romney campaign ineve going to cut and run from mitt romney. but uldn theupercs a mentthllstayhe way they are just decide mitt romney is running an unwinnable campaign, their money might be better spent in down-ballot campaigns? when the superpacs do their political triage there's an tion to cut mitt romney loose. joining us now for "the inteiew," an evil da money ovrdedl on senior strategist for the pro-obama superpac, priorities usa action. bill, it's good to have you here. >> overlord is such a dirty word. >> it sounds better thant looks. it loo nice. >> ion'tnklos nit loud. either. >> did i get the basic point right there about, about the money -- money outside the campaigns, money you've been raising and spending. it's at a disadvantage. you have to pay more for your time? >> the campaigns pay a much peten suac are able to pay. on the republican side, karl rove and the koch brothers have hundreds of millions of dollars so can put throwaway behind ads they're doing and can be up and have an impact. the truth is t campaigns are allowed to sp
mitt romney campaign ineve going to cut and run from mitt romney. but uldn theupercs a mentthllstayhe way they are just decide mitt romney is running an unwinnable campaign, their money might be better spent in down-ballot campaigns? when the superpacs do their political triage there's an tion to cut mitt romney loose. joining us now for "the inteiew," an evil da money ovrdedl on senior strategist for the pro-obama superpac, priorities usa action. bill, it's good to have you here....
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he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrably in the american election this time with the kinds of statements he has been making, positions he has been taking. he is imposing himself on what the american people need to decide for themselves. >> take it in the reverse, how often, you could say in not so friendly democracies, america over the years may have gotten involved in leadership elections, but in some of the most friendly allies, how often do american presidents do that? >> they generally stand back, let the american people make a decision. in fact, at this time which is a volatile time in that part of the world, what is also striking to me is that this gives president obama cover to some degree, not just on the iran issue. >> take
he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrably in the american election this time with the kinds of statements he has been making, positions he has been taking. he is imposing himself on what the...
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we're not seeing that from romney. >> mitt romney hasn't explained anything in the last year and a half. we don't know anything more about bain, about his faith, don't know about the touch stones that people have questions about. >> i really would -- >> is katon can the guy do this at the debate. >> he has the opportunity. he's done 20-something debates against gingrich and ron paul and others. >> raise those expectations. >> he also did them with ted kennedy, which lowered the expectations. what you're saying is the president is a well-organized campaign. all these messages aren't coming out by themselves. they're pushing them out. he has the power. si. he's invested in a ground game in 12 states. in north carolina, with early voting, 12,000 people have already voted. on gameday, 747,000 people voted for obama and a million -- for mccain. organization matters and the way the earned media is going matters. a lot of the ideas that romney is behind is the president has a pretty good campaign. >> certainly not a bad one. >> we have ground game. but he's running a pretty good campaign. >> n
we're not seeing that from romney. >> mitt romney hasn't explained anything in the last year and a half. we don't know anything more about bain, about his faith, don't know about the touch stones that people have questions about. >> i really would -- >> is katon can the guy do this at the debate. >> he has the opportunity. he's done 20-something debates against gingrich and ron paul and others. >> raise those expectations. >> he also did them with ted...
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>> for romney, i got one for romney which would be, you know -- for the president rather, your opponent says that he favored the kind of reorganization and bailout in bankruptcy that ultimately worked for the auto industry but with no public money. mr. president, was there private money available, and if there wasn't, what would have happened? >> thank you. >> i'm not jim lehrer, i'm not fair. >> that's really tough for obama. in other words, the other guy's -- i love these answers. thanks so much, bob shrum. i knew you wouldn't do this. joan, thanks so much. coming up -- yours at least was legitimate. >>> coming up, what can brown do for you? he's running for re-election up in ohio. but he's got karl rove money machine, whole money machine coming at him, and he's taking him on pretty well. he's doing well. we're going to learn something about winning in a good old state like ohio. >>> republicans have been searching without success over the country for voter fraud, and now they finally found it in their own campaign. the biggest case of alleged registration fraud in the country, and th
>> for romney, i got one for romney which would be, you know -- for the president rather, your opponent says that he favored the kind of reorganization and bailout in bankruptcy that ultimately worked for the auto industry but with no public money. mr. president, was there private money available, and if there wasn't, what would have happened? >> thank you. >> i'm not jim lehrer, i'm not fair. >> that's really tough for obama. in other words, the other guy's -- i love...
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mitt romney is not ronald reagan. what was striking is how many republicans were willing to say on the record that the comparison just doesn't cut the mustard. those things you just mentioned. the economy is so much weaker, very different electorate. ronald reagan didn't have a tough primary battle the way that mitt romney did. but the biggest difference between these two elections is that the country was so different then. the south was still considered democratic. it was only beginning to trend republican. so the week before the election, you had ronald reagan c campaigning in new york city trying to win new york. jimmy carter was campaigning in texas, unimaginable today. it was a very different map, and that's one of the reasons that it's so hard for romney to win this election. what's amazing is we've seen republicans make this ronald reagan comparison before. about four years ago when john mccain fell in the polls, his people also trying to draw that comparison. >> to your point, let me put up the screen on the r
mitt romney is not ronald reagan. what was striking is how many republicans were willing to say on the record that the comparison just doesn't cut the mustard. those things you just mentioned. the economy is so much weaker, very different electorate. ronald reagan didn't have a tough primary battle the way that mitt romney did. but the biggest difference between these two elections is that the country was so different then. the south was still considered democratic. it was only beginning to...
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romney for president, i assume? >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> but you'd be a reliable ally when it comes to the economic plans? >> on his economic plan? you said there was no one i'd trust more than romney. >> a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> his reluctance to pledge allegiance may have something to do with this. the two polls showing he who should not be named losing to president obama in massachusetts by 27 points and 28 points in the two latest polls. barney frank was at the debate. he joins us next. [ thunder crashes ] [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. >>> let me talk about mistakes. i made mistakes. i will make more mistake. before i got elected, i said my daughters are available
romney for president, i assume? >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> but you'd be a reliable ally when it comes to the economic plans? >> on his economic plan? you said there was no one i'd trust more than romney. >> a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> his reluctance to pledge allegiance may have something to do with this. the two polls showing he who should not be named losing...
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romney for president, i assume? >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> but you'd be a reliable ally when it comes to the economic plans? >> on his economic plan? you said there was no one i'd trust more than romney. >> a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> his reluctance to pledge allegiance may have something to do with this. the two polls showing he who should not be named losing to president obama in massachusetts by 27 points and 28 points in the two latest polls. barney frank was at the debate. he joins us next. [ male announcer ] for the dreamers... and those well grounded. for what's around this corner... and the next. there's cash flow options from pnc. solutions to help businesses like yours accelerate receivables, manage payments, and help ensure access to credit. because we know how important cash flow is to reaching your goals. pnc bank. for the achiever in you. is efficiently absorbed in small continuous amounts. citracal
romney for president, i assume? >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> but you'd be a reliable ally when it comes to the economic plans? >> on his economic plan? you said there was no one i'd trust more than romney. >> a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> his reluctance to pledge allegiance may have something to do with this. the two polls showing he who should not be named losing...
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mi romney is on the verge of isti.g yet another victim of ohio's 18 electoral votes are vital to romney's chances of winning in november. if mitt romney loses ohio, he's going to have to win all six swing states where the president currently leads. the president's lead in ohio is starting to look dominant. in a fox news poll, president obama leads by seven points. a "washington post" poll puts the president up by eight points in ohio. and the most recent poll by cbs and "the new york times" has president obama leading by ten points. romney was in ohio today, making a new pitc voters. he's the guy who understands their pain. >> there are so many in our country that are hurting right now. i want to help them. i know what it takes to get an economy going again and creating jobs. >> voters in ohio don't believe romney on this front at all. wht cos to the enomy 51 ovo she trust president obama against 45% of voters who trust mitt romney. obama has an advantage on the economy in ohio, because basically, this state is a national success story when it comes to the economy. sten to mitt romney's o
mi romney is on the verge of isti.g yet another victim of ohio's 18 electoral votes are vital to romney's chances of winning in november. if mitt romney loses ohio, he's going to have to win all six swing states where the president currently leads. the president's lead in ohio is starting to look dominant. in a fox news poll, president obama leads by seven points. a "washington post" poll puts the president up by eight points in ohio. and the most recent poll by cbs and "the new...
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ck o romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - a biofuel made from renewable sugarcane. >>a minute, mom! let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. >>> here's what's happening. an american airlines flight to miami returned to jfk airport because seats became loose during the flight. the company will now reinspect eight plains. it the sebld time seats were found in the last few days. an amtrack hit a truck driver. the truck failed to yield and hit the train.
ck o romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why...
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romney on foreign policy and the wars. and he is -- he's right there when he says that we don't know what mr. rney would d if he beme president. ryaiecynd guely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten tony competing cogent republican posionhears pbl wh weot from senator john mccain at the republican convention when he said that the afghanistan war just shouldn't end. he also thinks that the iraq war shouldn't have ended. so i'm not sure that it's a politically viable position even if it is an iernally cogent one from the senator. fois's mi appantlyust t going to happen. not unless he starts it now. 40 days out, mitt romney did get as close as he gets to talking about the issue to in that he spoke before a group of veterans and talked about a concern about veterans. even ihe didn't say what he ntedo a tcon. romney, in
romney on foreign policy and the wars. and he is -- he's right there when he says that we don't know what mr. rney would d if he beme president. ryaiecynd guely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten tony competing cogent republican posionhears pbl wh weot from senator john mccain at the...
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governor romney is good. i'm just okay. >> and paul ryan played his own version. >> president obama is a gifted speaker. he's been on the national stage for many years. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> but if all candidates are trying to lower expectations, maybe chris christie missed that memo. >> governor romney's going to lay out his vision for a better and greater america for greater opportunity for all of our citizens. and i think that's when you're going to see this race really start to tighten and move in governor romney's direction. come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. >> i want to bring in dana milbank and matt welsh. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> i suppose we shouldn't be surprised this race to lower expectations. give us your take on the expectations for this debate. >> romney needs something to happen for him. he's had a bad couple of weeks. ever since the 47% comment which i th
governor romney is good. i'm just okay. >> and paul ryan played his own version. >> president obama is a gifted speaker. he's been on the national stage for many years. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> but if all candidates are trying to lower expectations, maybe chris christie missed that memo. >> governor romney's going to lay out his vision for a better and greater america for greater opportunity for all of...
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romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> new polling from some key midwestern battlegrounds. first to ohio. a newp pp poll, president obama's lead there is four points, 49 to 45. ppp tends to lean democratic but the new columbus dispatch poll shows the president with a lead more than twice as big. he's up nine in the newspaper poll. 51/42. in iowa, a new des moines register poll has the president up 49/45. that's been a tricky state, iowa. we'll be right back. hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations with best in clas
romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> new polling from some key midwestern battlegrounds....
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romney for president, i assume? >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> but you'd be a reliable ally when it comes to the economic plans? >> on his economic plan? you said there was no one i'd trust more than romney. >> a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> his reluctance to pledge allegiance may have something to do with this. the two polls showing he who should not be named losing to president obama in massachusetts by 27 points and 28 points in the two latest polls. barney frank was at the debate. he joins us next. machine when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. yeah, i'm looking to save, but i'm
romney for president, i assume? >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> but you'd be a reliable ally when it comes to the economic plans? >> on his economic plan? you said there was no one i'd trust more than romney. >> a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> his reluctance to pledge allegiance may have something to do with this. the two polls showing he who should not be named losing...
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romney. >> mr. romney -- >> i'm sorry. was it my turn to respond. >> i was going to end it there. >> my suggestion about my comments in utah. let me complete it and you can ask me. >> do you have a problem with allowing someone to finish speaking and i suggest if you want to become president of the united states, you have to let both people speak. >> romney's worst moment was this one. it was a year ago with rick perry. >> rick, again, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here is i get 60 seconds and you get 30 seconds to respond. >> obama has done his best to test him on this. both men have been tripped up by looking patronizing to women. aggressive attacks made her less likely to romney and helped turn the race in his favor. the last week of their fight centered on whether romney had taken a sexist tone when accused of accepting an anti-abortion group's endorsement. >> i did not in any way acknowledge their endorsement. >> you accepted it. >> in what way did i accep
romney. >> mr. romney -- >> i'm sorry. was it my turn to respond. >> i was going to end it there. >> my suggestion about my comments in utah. let me complete it and you can ask me. >> do you have a problem with allowing someone to finish speaking and i suggest if you want to become president of the united states, you have to let both people speak. >> romney's worst moment was this one. it was a year ago with rick perry. >> rick, again, i'm speaking. i'm...
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romney's message than mr. romney does at his own rallies. at the same time, there was a satire in politico and it's been fueling speculation tha the eynathi is strained. >>> joan meg now, the author of that piece, chief political columnist for politico, roger simon. i thought it was pretty funny but some readers were confused that your piece was aat le read an excerpt. reportedly, ryan has been marching around his campaign bus saying things like, if stench call, take a message, and tell stench i'm having finger sandwiches with peggy noonan and i'll text him later. politico added a editor'se if aut the satire, but i know some readers were indeed confused. tell me about what's been going on with this piece. the point and the reaction. >> sure. the point is that i didn't invent the word stench. i think if i h called mitt romn mr. stench it woue iadte would never have done it. the fact is that word that phrase comes from the former political director of the iowa airobinson, who was quoted by name in the "new york times" as saying if paul ryan wa
romney's message than mr. romney does at his own rallies. at the same time, there was a satire in politico and it's been fueling speculation tha the eynathi is strained. >>> joan meg now, the author of that piece, chief political columnist for politico, roger simon. i thought it was pretty funny but some readers were confused that your piece was aat le read an excerpt. reportedly, ryan has been marching around his campaign bus saying things like, if stench call, take a message, and...
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mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail together,t karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. business pro. governor of getting it done. you kn how to dance... tdeadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it , bune pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. so it can feel like you're using nothing at all. but neosporin® eczema essentials™ is different. its multi-aion formula restores visibly healthier skin 3 d neosporin® eczema essentials™. >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the missouri sate race, claire mccaskill is hitting akin hard for his we'll be right back. fale announ
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mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail together, sort of a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish toght with how the moic pty a he rty to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the missouri senate race, claire mccaskill is hitting akin hard for his we'll be right back. > e' apt oth right wing to delegitimatize president obama, an attempt to declare our president not really an american. >> i would like to have him show his birth certificat >> i wish this president would learn how to how to be an american. >> no one's asked for my birth certificate. >> this talk and false welfare ads is what president obama faces in the next 41ays. alex wagner host of "now" on msnbc and eugene robinson is a pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post." thanks for joining us tonight. you know, i just wder, why is there so little
mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail together, sort of a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish toght with how the moic pty a he rty to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the missouri senate race, claire...
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romney -- it's not just romney, seriously. but romney is very flawed on this issue thisountry needs to me t s th yan't go into poor neighborhoods and raise property taxes and expect that all the education problems are going to be fixed in america. we have to federally fund public education, no child left behind, the money never showed up to the districts around the country. it aheemocts don't have fund the political power to make sure that it gets done. so that's why we have failing schools in this country. for the first time in 25 years, the teachers in chicago went on strike. they didn't go ostri becse tht ty we gting screwed when it came to a paycheck. they went on strike because they wanted to make sure that every classroom was properly resourced and every kid had a fighting chance to make it in america. mitt romney, if you want to draw the line here, really made the caseorhe 47% in edatio daonounk he's willing to admit that some kids are just going to fail and we'll just blame it on the damn unions and the teachers that w
romney -- it's not just romney, seriously. but romney is very flawed on this issue thisountry needs to me t s th yan't go into poor neighborhoods and raise property taxes and expect that all the education problems are going to be fixed in america. we have to federally fund public education, no child left behind, the money never showed up to the districts around the country. it aheemocts don't have fund the political power to make sure that it gets done. so that's why we have failing schools in...
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i don't want to vote for romney. but i really thought things would be better by now. >> real change takes more than one term. or even one president. i don't know if it will even happen in eight years. might take 12. frankly, i might be long dead. who here has a job? there we go. there we go. what do you do, sir? >> i'm a manager at burger king. >> and where were you four years ago, probably working the counter, right? >> i was a vice president for bank of america. >> oh, okay. the point is that today you're a manager at one of america's biggest companies. that's a success story. probably get free burgers, right? >> no one gets free burgers. actually, i had to fire a guy for eating one while eating on the clock. >> there you go. free brick. anyone else feel they're much better off than four years ago? yes, sir? what do you do? >> i don't have a job. i just won a lot of money in a lawsuit last year. >> i see. >> yeah. i was eating at a burger king and some guy just hit me with a brick. >> there you go! circle of life.
i don't want to vote for romney. but i really thought things would be better by now. >> real change takes more than one term. or even one president. i don't know if it will even happen in eight years. might take 12. frankly, i might be long dead. who here has a job? there we go. there we go. what do you do, sir? >> i'm a manager at burger king. >> and where were you four years ago, probably working the counter, right? >> i was a vice president for bank of america....
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mitt romney campaign is never going to cut and run from mitt romney. but couldn't the superpacs at some point if the polls stay the way they areust decide mitt romney is running an unwinnable campaign, their money might be better spent in down-ballot caaigns? tupercsthr political triage there's an option to cut mitt romney loose. joining us now for "the interview," an evil dark money overlord named bill burton, a senior strategist for the pro-obama superpac, prioriti usa action. rell, it's good to have u >> overlord is such a dirty word. >> it sounds better than it looks. it looks nice. then you say it out loud. >> i don't think it looks nice, either. >> did i get the basic point right there about, about the money -- money outside the campaigns, money you've been ind di it's at a disadvantage. you have to pay more for your ad time? >> the campaigns pay a much cheaper rate than the superpacs are able to pay. the republican side, karl rove and the koch brothersave hundreds of millions of dollars eydoann p awayins have an impact. the truth is the campaign
mitt romney campaign is never going to cut and run from mitt romney. but couldn't the superpacs at some point if the polls stay the way they areust decide mitt romney is running an unwinnable campaign, their money might be better spent in down-ballot caaigns? tupercsthr political triage there's an option to cut mitt romney loose. joining us now for "the interview," an evil dark money overlord named bill burton, a senior strategist for the pro-obama superpac, prioriti usa action. rell,...
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romney is. he's taking issues off the table and he's removing reasons for people to vote for him. i think that's why he's behind right now. >> let me play -- we said that congressman ryan is on the bus tour in iowa. want to play this moment from fox news where he appeared a little put off by the push from chris wallace, let me play it. >> you're the master of the budget, so briefly let's go through the plan. the obama camp says independent groups say if you cut those tax rates for everybody 20%, it costs $5 trillion over ten years. true? >> not in the least bit true. look, this just goes to show if you tore tour statistics enough they'll confess to what you want them to confess to. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. it's -- >> no. i'm just talking about the cuts. we'll get to the deductions. the cut in tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all american tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away th
romney is. he's taking issues off the table and he's removing reasons for people to vote for him. i think that's why he's behind right now. >> let me play -- we said that congressman ryan is on the bus tour in iowa. want to play this moment from fox news where he appeared a little put off by the push from chris wallace, let me play it. >> you're the master of the budget, so briefly let's go through the plan. the obama camp says independent groups say if you cut those tax rates for...
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romney. the obama campaign is hammering home who the real romney is and what he stands for. he's a candidate who has no problem writing off the country, something that this president refuses to do. >> i'm not fighting to create democrat or republican jobs, i'm creating jobs. i'm fighting to improve schools in the united states of america. i'm not fighting on behalf of rich values or poor values or 53% value. i'm fighting for american values. he's fighting for american values. but the other candidate, the man behind the mask, he's offering us a budget that takes care of the rich but leaves everyone else in the dust. >> show me your budget. i'll tell you what you've got. let's take a look at their budget. why are they doing it? well, they are doing it because they have to. and here's the reason they have to. they cannot possibly, possibly continue to add to the tax cuts of the super wealthy. >> that's what is behind the romney mask. that's what the next 39 days to the election are all about. and a special thank you to our fake president and mitt romney for helping us to predic
romney. the obama campaign is hammering home who the real romney is and what he stands for. he's a candidate who has no problem writing off the country, something that this president refuses to do. >> i'm not fighting to create democrat or republican jobs, i'm creating jobs. i'm fighting to improve schools in the united states of america. i'm not fighting on behalf of rich values or poor values or 53% value. i'm fighting for american values. he's fighting for american values. but the...
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romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want to move forward. as it relates to his tax plan, he has said very clearly that, a, he wants to cut certain tax loopholes, b, he wants to keep the bush era tax cut rates in place, and c, we need to make sure we can work with congress in a bipartisan fashion to get it done. i think that's very fair, i think it's a question that will be asked of him tomorrow by jim lehrer. >> it's also been deemed as mathematically impossible. thank you. as the candidates gear up, we are headed to denver. we will broadcast live from the university of denver, so be sure to tune in tomorrow, 4:00 p.m. eastern. >>> next, the 47 and bain.
romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want to move forward. as it relates to his tax plan, he has said very clearly that, a, he wants to...
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who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything for him. it's his last chance. donors are going to go away if he doesn't do well. he's going to lose the support of establishment republicans who will start giving their money to senate candidates instead. it's a tremendous amount of pressure. so he's really got the expectations game that he's got to fulfill, and we'll see how he does. >> anne, this praise of mitt romney about an anecdote of being abandoned on a boat his hi grandkids. take a look and take a listen. >> i said, who's going to grab the rope? and i looked up, and there was mitt romney. so he pull ed me in, tied up th boat for me,
who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything...
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ory tel about mitt t romney is there is no story about mitt romney. the story they tell about barack obama is well he's always bad things. if you're trying to figure out well what is it that - what's the strategy here? how are we trying toin ts ra itorfi on their side. that's why they're so inefficient with their money. spending is a wreck. message is all over the place. that's why they're not having as big an impact and people thought they would. >> don't miss the unique take on politics and all the top stories on the el madow show at 9:00 eastern, the place for politics. >>> here's your "first look" at the other news going on around today. in utah, a dramatic rescue for a young deer that got trapped in a man hole earlier this week. poor guy. officers used a cinpeo lasso the spooked animal and hoist it to safety. the deer was then released back into the wild. >>> all right. beer drinkers may want to turn away for a mont. cases and cases of beer went from aovrnsemi that o higay took a turn too quickly. the stretch of highway was closed for three hours
ory tel about mitt t romney is there is no story about mitt romney. the story they tell about barack obama is well he's always bad things. if you're trying to figure out well what is it that - what's the strategy here? how are we trying toin ts ra itorfi on their side. that's why they're so inefficient with their money. spending is a wreck. message is all over the place. that's why they're not having as big an impact and people thought they would. >> don't miss the unique take on politics...
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romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. >> okay, now, you'll notice in both clips mitt looks just as goofy which caused me to react. some people heard romney. other people heard ryan. our clip from nbc, unfiltered, we ran it. politico heard ryan as well, and they report it had that way around 5:30 the afternoon of the event, which was what our staff followed. later "the new york times" wrote that the crowd was chanting "romney," then they followed with a correction that our staff read overnight saying kind of hard to follow what it was. this was among the chee-tos brigade as to whether i would vote for mitt romney, is trying to throw the election by filtering a tape and cracking a joke. really, guys? your conspiracy theories are getting out of hand, the poll con spercy, the fox news to throw the election for barack obama? it's getting out of hand. like this two-second frenzy is just silly. conservative blogger jazz shawl for hotair. too many people who are ostensibly fighting for the conservative cause have ch
romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. >> okay, now, you'll notice in both clips mitt looks just as goofy which caused me to react. some people heard romney. other people heard ryan. our clip from nbc, unfiltered, we ran it. politico heard ryan as well, and they report it had that way around 5:30 the afternoon of the event, which was what our staff followed. later "the new york times" wrote that the crowd was chanting "romney," then they followed with a correction...
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. >> governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> flashpoint libya, the white house on the defensive after reports of both security and intelligence nurse in benghazi before that terror attack. >> standing up, sitting down. >> which ever one you like. >> there you go. >> do whatever they tell us. >> the white house line is you heard the president say, osama bin laden is dead, al qaeda is done, everything is fine in the middle east. this, obviously, contradicts -- ther series of events contradicts that campaign slogan. so, the fact is, that this was clearly an act of terror committed by people who were pretty well trained jihadists. >> more carnage in afghanistan. the taliban take responsibility for a suicide attack that killed 14 today including three americans. we are deployed in the h
. >> governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> flashpoint libya, the white house on the defensive after reports of both security and intelligence nurse in benghazi before that terror attack. >> standing up, sitting down....
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certainly not mitt romney. we've got people stationed, men and women, stationed in afghanistan and they're not talking about the war. you did a great segment on that last night. >> at least a long segment. 68 -- >> for good reasons. >> 68,000 americans who are really incredibly talented, incredible resources for our country, people in the prime of their lives risking their lives every day right now and in 2004, in that presidential campaign, we were at war and george w. bush and john kerry fought it out every day about the war. in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifia
certainly not mitt romney. we've got people stationed, men and women, stationed in afghanistan and they're not talking about the war. you did a great segment on that last night. >> at least a long segment. 68 -- >> for good reasons. >> 68,000 americans who are really incredibly talented, incredible resources for our country, people in the prime of their lives risking their lives every day right now and in 2004, in that presidential campaign, we were at war and george w. bush...
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romney senior adviser in a new memo says voters will get to know more about the specifics of the romney plan and how it will benefit them. on sunday it was the latest survey to show him trailing by five or more points in the buckeye state. here's the reality for the gop ticket in the state. you could argue obama is in a stronger position in north carolina, his battleground state, than romney is in ohio. a state that every republican presidential nominee has won. this morning president romney has a new ad in ohio. some wouldn't sound out of place if he were a labor leader. >> fewer americans are working today than when president obama took office. it doesn't have to be this way, if obama would stand up to china. >> china bashing always works in primary campaigns and general election campaigns in places like ohio. the obama campaign is countering in its own new add. the first in the campaign trying to use can 47% comment against him. >> mitt romney attacked 47% of americans who pay no income tax. including veterans, elderly, the disabled. >> my job is not to worry about those people. sfwl
romney senior adviser in a new memo says voters will get to know more about the specifics of the romney plan and how it will benefit them. on sunday it was the latest survey to show him trailing by five or more points in the buckeye state. here's the reality for the gop ticket in the state. you could argue obama is in a stronger position in north carolina, his battleground state, than romney is in ohio. a state that every republican presidential nominee has won. this morning president romney...
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romney, 1 million. but not all of these followers are real, says social media company status people. their engine finds that just 24% of obama followers are good, and 55% of romney's in these little areas here. now, still the good ratio when you look at it with obama is 7x, if you were to do the math there. either way romney has an opportunity here, says an article entitled "is romney homsocial?" 57% to 80% of these users dominated by women. and romney's early social media efforts here, chris, were not as aggressive as obama's. >> i guess it's too early. we've never had a campaign like this, so we'll see if these kinds of numbers actually have any relationship to getting people to the polls. >> the first social media campaign, they say. right? >> fascinating stuff. thank you so much, richard. >>> and that does wrap up this hour of "jansing & co." thomas roberts is up next. >> good morning. mitt romney sets aside fund-raising for actual campaigning. with only 43 days left, can romney reveal his true core
romney, 1 million. but not all of these followers are real, says social media company status people. their engine finds that just 24% of obama followers are good, and 55% of romney's in these little areas here. now, still the good ratio when you look at it with obama is 7x, if you were to do the math there. either way romney has an opportunity here, says an article entitled "is romney homsocial?" 57% to 80% of these users dominated by women. and romney's early social media efforts...
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i think romney will take hard shots. he may spend the whole 90 minutes blastinging away him aw hoping that something will stick. i think obama will play with him, block the blows, trying to keep his head clear so he will avoid getting hurt. it will start with both then staying cautious, not hard enough to register with the tens and millions watching. then it will happen, romney will deliver a prerehearsed sound bite, something about the economy. he said you do but hasn't. he expects the president to dep fend himself and when he does, romney will pounce. he will say that obama's not running against bush and get obama to pass the buck on the tough economic recovery and then land his sunday punch. i suppose president obama knows this is all coming and is preparing to deal with it. the good news is this. a month ago, all his
i think romney will take hard shots. he may spend the whole 90 minutes blastinging away him aw hoping that something will stick. i think obama will play with him, block the blows, trying to keep his head clear so he will avoid getting hurt. it will start with both then staying cautious, not hard enough to register with the tens and millions watching. then it will happen, romney will deliver a prerehearsed sound bite, something about the economy. he said you do but hasn't. he expects the...
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romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are sleeping in separate rooms. i'm joined by msnbc political analyst howard fineman and joy joy-ann reid, managing editor of thegrio.com. more polling data that shows mitt romney trailing. according to a new fox news poll, president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48% to 43%. catch that, the fox poll. highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks to me like this divorce papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hear now is romney doesn't really want to be stuc
romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are...
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mitt romney versus mitt romney. oh. and president obama will be there too. this conundrum of what we'll call the paradox of the mittens, dates back to 1994 when senator ted kennedy dropped this debate heat rock. >> on the question of the choice issue, i have supported the row v raid wade, i am pro choice, my opponent is multiple choice. >> so which bubble will the multiple choice candidate fill in on tomorrow night's test? which mitt will triumph on stage. even members of the conservative establishment aren't sure. bill o'reilly conceded mitt romney is a mystery man. >> people don't really know who mitt romney is. the pressure is on the governor. he has to come across as a regular guy, which i'm not sure he can do. >> true to form romney's policies remain veiled in the same cloud of mystery. his running mate paul ryan refused to say how much their tax cut would cost alleging it would take too long to get into all the math. congressman ryan defended that dodge yesterday. >> i didn't want to get into all the math of this because everybody would start changing
mitt romney versus mitt romney. oh. and president obama will be there too. this conundrum of what we'll call the paradox of the mittens, dates back to 1994 when senator ted kennedy dropped this debate heat rock. >> on the question of the choice issue, i have supported the row v raid wade, i am pro choice, my opponent is multiple choice. >> so which bubble will the multiple choice candidate fill in on tomorrow night's test? which mitt will triumph on stage. even members of the...
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romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. >> as the hour that will determine his destiny grows closer, mitt romney must find clear answers. >> the first ground rule i would say to mitt is be who you are. >> i'm running for office for pete sake. i can't have illegals. >> it's a mistake to somehow be clever. >> i'm not a bomb thrower. rhetorically or literally. >> i'm mitt romney, and that's also my first name. >> he has to be prepared to defend himself as the moderator and obama will come after him. >> the way the rules work here i get 60 seconds. anderson -- >> you knew you had illegal -- >> would you please wait. >> with mitt romney, is there ever such a thing as a crisis averted? >> i think as people look at his record and imagine him debating obama, obama is going to laugh at him. >> you ask me an entirely different question. >> now alex is out today on vacation on the planet of jupiter but did leave behind a special gift we on behalf of alex wagner want to congratulate ben smith on reaching 100,000 twitter fo
romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. >> as the hour that will determine his destiny grows closer, mitt romney must find clear answers. >> the first ground rule i would say to mitt is be who you are. >> i'm running for office for pete sake. i can't have illegals. >> it's a mistake to somehow be clever. >> i'm not a bomb thrower. rhetorically or literally. >> i'm mitt romney, and that's also my first name. >> he has to be prepared to defend himself as...
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romney is a pretty good debater. whoever in the clip said there that romney has had 20 or whatever it is recent debates, that's true. during the primaries when romney needed to deliver a big knockout punch to newt gingrich and to rick perry, he managed to do it, and he did it very aggressively. so he knows what he's doing up there. obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make sure he gets his share of sound bites in the newscasts that follow. >> based on previous debate performances, how would you characterize governor romney's style versus the president's style? >> romney is good on the attack, i think. as i just indicated, i mean, when he needed to flash the knife against rick perry in that one debate i'm particularly thinking of, he really did it. he's good at that, and he's not going to back down. you know, a lot of this also comes down to interpersonal dynamics and how they play off each other an
romney is a pretty good debater. whoever in the clip said there that romney has had 20 or whatever it is recent debates, that's true. during the primaries when romney needed to deliver a big knockout punch to newt gingrich and to rick perry, he managed to do it, and he did it very aggressively. so he knows what he's doing up there. obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make...
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bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i think if they would have gone in and dealt with immediately and honestly from the beginning, they wouldn't have had a campaign that said, to try to pin the entire four years of the economy on president obama. they would know that average people understand, he came in with a huge burden, a collapsing economy, and they would have -- he would have said, look, the first two years, that was the problem of the president's predecessor. you can't blame him for that. but the last two years, that's obama's. there were ways for him to deal with it. but frankly, it was a very, very difficult legacy for, i think any republican, romney or anyone, to have to deal. >> the romney campaign said it wants to make the election about the economy, and initially it really tried to do that. but polls show that now americans, as you mentioned, tend to assign more blame to bush than to obama when it comes to that issue. 68% say bush should get a great deal or mode
bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i think if they would have gone in and dealt with immediately and honestly from the beginning, they wouldn't have had a campaign that said, to try to pin the entire four years of the economy on president obama. they would know that average people understand, he came in with a huge burden, a collapsing economy, and they would have -- he...
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mitt romney, a hypocrite. people see that gaffe. it is not that he is like ted kennedy said, he is not pro-choice. he is multiple choice. >> we are all political junkies but as ia great marketing tool. m marketing, you can just lie over and over and over. have enough money to lie and people will start believing it is true. >> frito-lay mastered this. i don't believe i can only eat one potato chip. that's where citizens united is a powerful tool. you can just lie, lie, lie. for example, this lie about the $719 billion the president is taking away from medicare beneficiaries -- >> it also feels like -- >> just keep saying it and it will be true. >> in addition to dishonesty and this flip-flopping and apparently lack of awareness about technology, it also feels like romney tends to move towards wherever he thinks there is power. i was just blown away. there is this moment where in a new web ad that the governor has where he does a cuddling up to the president that i want us to look at real quickly. >> president obama and i both care wi
mitt romney, a hypocrite. people see that gaffe. it is not that he is like ted kennedy said, he is not pro-choice. he is multiple choice. >> we are all political junkies but as ia great marketing tool. m marketing, you can just lie over and over and over. have enough money to lie and people will start believing it is true. >> frito-lay mastered this. i don't believe i can only eat one potato chip. that's where citizens united is a powerful tool. you can just lie, lie, lie. for...
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romney's 47% remark. you're probably not going to want to hear this, rich, but let's play it. >> [ inaudible ] they believe they are victims. they believe the government has the responsibility to care for them. who believe that they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> i got to tell you, we've tossed this around with my production team. and there are few who don't think that this is one of the most damning ads out there. this is one that's going to stick around. how in the world? because you put these words to faces. rich, how does the romney camp counter this? >> i think you can't. you can't counter it. you just have to try to change the discussion. i mean, four years ago when the president then senator obama made that bone-headed remark about pennsylvanians he went on to win pennsylvania in the general election. so these things have sort of a half life. and we'll see whether it still
romney's 47% remark. you're probably not going to want to hear this, rich, but let's play it. >> [ inaudible ] they believe they are victims. they believe the government has the responsibility to care for them. who believe that they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> i got to tell you, we've tossed this around with my production team. and there are few who...
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ed said i see no connection between that mitt romney and this mitt romney. you've talked about the remarkable things he's done on wall street. what he di with bain capital, what a great american success d y as well, there's a huge disconnect between that mitt romney and the mitt romney that we're seeing bumblg around on the campaign trail. it seems that while presidential elections elevate some like reagan and clinton, they diminish others like mitt romney. o fundamentally kind of technocrats and businesspeople look at what he did in massachusetts and say he got a lot of stuff done, worked with the rest of the government, et cetera, et cetera, got health care done, this is how government should function,ut athat ppen outheel obvio cagnil tt he was pushed into places, into corners, into positions that he may or may not actually believe in, but which portray him and create an image of him in very, very different light. and so now we are left with this kindf bum eling candidate w isn't even really sure wtis sedut saying he wanted to repeal the bush tax cuts. th
ed said i see no connection between that mitt romney and this mitt romney. you've talked about the remarkable things he's done on wall street. what he di with bain capital, what a great american success d y as well, there's a huge disconnect between that mitt romney and the mitt romney that we're seeing bumblg around on the campaign trail. it seems that while presidential elections elevate some like reagan and clinton, they diminish others like mitt romney. o fundamentally kind of technocrats...
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romney 44. chuck? >> the one thing i've heard on this poll is democrats are arguing that northern virginia was under represented in the poll. that said, i mean we're talking a difference of a point or two. if you will. and it's sort of in the range of what you hear where virginia is anywhere from two to five points so the number was not surprising. >> chuck todd, david gregory, you look at all of these polls and, david, look at the fact, in ohio, even the romney people understand they're down six, seven, eight points. and they're down right now in north carolina, a state they were ahead in and not so long ago. it makes you think that newt gingrich is right, mitt romney needs to turn in a great performance in the first debate, or else the window starts closing. >> this is very clear. you get several big opportunities as a candidate to make your mark. the announcement of your running mate. your convention. and then the debates. and the reality is that mitt romney is not seized on those first two events.
romney 44. chuck? >> the one thing i've heard on this poll is democrats are arguing that northern virginia was under represented in the poll. that said, i mean we're talking a difference of a point or two. if you will. and it's sort of in the range of what you hear where virginia is anywhere from two to five points so the number was not surprising. >> chuck todd, david gregory, you look at all of these polls and, david, look at the fact, in ohio, even the romney people understand...